A hiddenadvent.org message that's very debateable. It's
a Chistian pep-talk to new Chinese converts to accept that (the Bible fortells?) "the mainland of China will have come
to an end" (purified, or made perfect, by fire so they
can love God better?). "That is to say, those whom God
predestined and chose will all have been made perfect,
and then God will have gained his glory". Wow! Is
this saying, Chinese people, get comfortable with being blown
up by nukes? Read on and then decide for yourself.
english.hidden-advent.org/words...58.php
A Brief Interpretation of “The Millennial Kingdom Has
Come”
With respect to the vision of the Millennial Kingdom,
what are your views on it? Some people have thought a
lot about it, saying, °?In the Millennial Kingdom,
people will live on the earth for one thousand years;
so, how about the single brothers and sisters in the
church who are getting old, should they get married or
shouldn°Øt they? My family is poor; should I go and
earn money or shouldn°Øt I?°±... Do you know what the
Millennial Kingdom is actually all about? Because
people have not been able to understand this
thoroughly, they have undergone a great deal of
refining. In fact, the Millennial Kingdom has not yet
formally come. In the stage in which people are
perfected, the Millennial Kingdom is only a small
image. As God has said, in the °?Millennial Kingdom°±
people will have been made perfect. It has previously
been mentioned that all people will be like saints,
standing firm in the land of Sinim. When people have
been made perfect, they will become saints, as God has
said. Only then will the Millennial Kingdom have come.
God°Øs perfecting people is all about purifying them.
The more they are being purified, the more they are
being made perfect by God. When the impurities,
rebelliousness, resistance and the fleshly things in
you have been cast off and wiped out, you will be one
in whom God is well pleased, (in other words, a
saint). And, when you have been made perfect by God
and have become a saint, you will be in the Millennial
Kingdom. Now it is the Age of the Kingdom, in the Age
of the Millennial Kingdom, people will all live on the
word of God. All nations will pledge their allegiance
to God°Øs name, and come to read his word. When that
time comes, some will make phone calls and others will
send telegrams... they will use various ways to get
God°Øs word. You will also pledge your allegiance to
God°Øs word. All these are the things that will take
place after people have been made perfect. God is now
perfecting, refining, inspiring and guiding people
through the word, as it is the Age of Kingdom at
present, the stage in which people are perfected. It
has nothing to do with the Age of the Millennial
Kingdom. In the Age of the Millennial Kingdom, people
will have been made perfect and the corruption in them
will have been wiped out. The word God will proclaim
at that time will guide people step by step,
disclosing the mysteries of all the works that God did
from the creation of the world till now. Moreover, God
will tell people what he did in every age, what he did
on each day, how he guided them within, the work he
did in the spiritual realm, and the way in which the
spiritual realm developed. Only when that time comes
will it really be the Age of the Word, of which the
present is only a small image. If people have not been
made perfect and have not been purified, they will not
be able to live on the earth for a thousand years and
their flesh will necessarily perish. When people have
been purified on the inside and no longer have the
fleshly things of Satan, they will be able to continue
to live on the earth. You cannot understand that
thoroughly while you are still in this stage of the
work. What you are to experience at the present time
is to love God and testify about God all the days that
you live on the earth.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????"????"??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
°?The Millennial Kingdom Has Come°± is a piece of
prophecy. It is equal to the prophecies the prophets
gave. It is God, at the present time, prophesying the
things to happen in the future. The word God will
speak in the future is different from the word that he
speaks at the present time. The word he will speak in
the future is to lead the age. The word he speaks at
the present time is to perfect, refine and correct
people. The Age of the Word in the future that God
speaks about is different from the Age of the Word he
speaks about at the present time. At this time, all
the words God speaks, regardless of whatever manner he
uses, are to perfect people and to cleanse their filth
on the inside so that they can be holy and become the
righteous before God. The word God speaks at the
present time is totally different from the word he
will speak in the future. The word God speaks in the
Age of the Kingdom is to let people enter into all
aspects of their training, and to let them enter all
aspects of the right path and to get rid of all their
impurities. This is what God is doing in this age,
making God°Øs word be the foundation inside of every
one and be life of every one so that they can have the
inspiration and guidance of God°Øs word inside all the
time. When they do not show any consideration for the
intention of God, they are rebuked and disciplined
within by God°Øs word. The word God speaks at the
present time is to be man°Øs life and to directly
provide for his needs. Whatever you lack on the inside
can be provided through the word of God. All who
accept the word of God gain inspiration through eating
and drinking the word of God. The word God will speak
in the future is to guide beings all over the
universe. At present, God can only speak these words
in China. They do not represent what he will proclaim
to the entire universe. Only when the Millennial
Kingdom comes will God issue forth his voice to the
entire universe. You should know that the word that
God speaks at the present time is entirely in order to
perfect people, that the word he speaks in this stage
is to provide for people°Øs needs, and that it is not
to let you know a few mysteries or see miraculous
signs and wonders. He proclaims the word in so many
different ways; it is exactly in order to provide for
people°Øs needs. At present, the Age of the Millennial
Kingdom has not yet come. The Age of the Millennial
Kingdom that God speaks about is the time God gains
his glory. When the stage of the work done by Jesus in
Judea was finished, God shifted his work to the
mainland of China. He made another plan, doing another
part of his work in you, the work of perfecting people
through his word. Through the word, he makes people
suffer a lot of afflictions as well as receive much
grace from him. In this stage of the work, he will
perfect a group of overcomers. When he has gained such
a group who can testify about his deeds and live out
the reality of his word in a practical way, and who
can truly satisfy him and be loyal to him unto death,
he will have gained his glory. When God has gained his
glory, that is, when he has made this group of people
perfect, it will be the Age of the Millennial Kingdom.
"???????"???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Jesus lived on the earth for thirty-three and a half
years. His coming was to do a stage of the work of
crucifixion. Through his being crucified, God gained a
part of his glory. When God was in the flesh, he was
able to humble himself, be hidden, and endure extreme
sufferings. Although he was God himself, he still
endured all the humiliation, all the slander and the
extreme pain of being crucified to complete the
redemptive work. Although people have seen that God
was greatly glorified after that stage of the work was
accomplished, that is not the full glory of God. He
only gained a part of his glory in Jesus. Although
Jesus was able to bear all the sufferings, humble
himself, be hidden, and be crucified for God, God only
gained a part of his glory. This glory was gained in
Israel, but God still has another part of his glory,
that is, to come to the earth and do the work in a
practical way to perfect a team of people. Although
God did some transcendent things in that stage of the
work of Jesus, it was not merely in order to perform
miraculous signs and wonders in that stage, but mainly
in order to let people see that Jesus could suffer for
God and be crucified for God. Moreover, he could
endure the extreme sufferings because of his love for
God. Although God abandoned him, he was willing to
offer up his whole life for the sake of God°Øs will.
When God had accomplished his work in Israel, that is,
after Jesus was crucified, God had already gained his
glory and God had already done a stage of testimony
before Satan. However, since you neither knew nor saw
how God had come to China and become flesh, then where
do you see that God has gained his glory? God has done
a lot of conquering work in you and you have stood
firm, which is proof that the work of God has been
successful. This is a part of God°Øs glory. You have
only seen this point. But you have not been made
perfect by God and have not completely surrendered
your hearts to God. So, you have not yet fully seen
this glory. You have only seen that God has conquered
your hearts, that you can no longer leave him and that
you are resolved to follow God to the end with a loyal
heart. This is God°Øs glory. Where can you see God°Øs
glory? You can see it from the results that God has
attained through his working in people, as you see how
lovely God is, and that God is in people°Øs hearts,
and that they are unwilling to depart from God. This
is indeed God°Øs glory. The strength of all the
brothers and sisters in the churches has rallied, and
they love God from the bottom of their hearts. And,
they see that the work God does is extremely powerful,
and that his word has incomparable power, and bears
authority. In the mainland of China, the fortress full
of demons, God is still able to carry out his work.
Although the people are weak, they surrender their
hearts before God and are willing to accept his word.
Although they are weak and unworthy, they can see how
lovely God°Øs word is and how greatly it deserves to
be treasured. This is God°Øs glory indeed. One day,
when all people have been made perfect by God, and
they all surrender before God and are all completely
submissive to God, committing their future and their
destiny into his hand, God will have completely gained
the second part of his glory. In other words, when the
real God has accomplished all his work, the work God
does in the mainland of China will have come to an
end. That is to say, those whom God predestined and
chose will all have been made perfect, and then God
will have gained his glory. God said that he has taken
the second part of his glory to the East. People
cannot see this with their fleshly eyes, but God has
brought his work to the East, which means that he has
come to the East. This is precisely God°Øs glory.
Although it has not been achieved as yet, he will
surely accomplish it, since he has aimed to do it. God
is resolved to accomplish this work in China. He has
determined to make you perfect. Therefore, he has now
cut off all the ways of escape that people have, that
is, he has conquered their hearts. You have to go
regardless of whether you are willing or unwilling.
When you have been possessed by God, God will have
gained his glory. Now he has not completely gained his
glory because you have not been made perfect. Although
you have surrendered your hearts to God, you still
have a lot of fleshly weakness and cannot satisfy God
or show consideration for his intention, and there are
still a lot of negative things in you that need to be
cast off.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
If you believe God ordains these things, then, in my not so humbe opinion, you have more spiritual abuse to recover from. Quick fix? STOP BEING A RACIST! STOP BELIEVING THAT GOD IS A RACIST! STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING "they" TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS WHEN IT SAYS xyz...and START LISTENING TO YOUR HEART AND USE YOUR MIND...you can do it, bubba...
a Chistian pep-talk to new Chinese converts to accept that (the Bible fortells?) "the mainland of China will have come
to an end" (purified, or made perfect, by fire so they
can love God better?). "That is to say, those whom God
predestined and chose will all have been made perfect,
and then God will have gained his glory". Wow! Is
this saying, Chinese people, get comfortable with being blown
up by nukes? Read on and then decide for yourself.
english.hidden-advent.org/words...58.php
A Brief Interpretation of “The Millennial Kingdom Has
Come”
With respect to the vision of the Millennial Kingdom,
what are your views on it? Some people have thought a
lot about it, saying, °?In the Millennial Kingdom,
people will live on the earth for one thousand years;
so, how about the single brothers and sisters in the
church who are getting old, should they get married or
shouldn°Øt they? My family is poor; should I go and
earn money or shouldn°Øt I?°±... Do you know what the
Millennial Kingdom is actually all about? Because
people have not been able to understand this
thoroughly, they have undergone a great deal of
refining. In fact, the Millennial Kingdom has not yet
formally come. In the stage in which people are
perfected, the Millennial Kingdom is only a small
image. As God has said, in the °?Millennial Kingdom°±
people will have been made perfect. It has previously
been mentioned that all people will be like saints,
standing firm in the land of Sinim. When people have
been made perfect, they will become saints, as God has
said. Only then will the Millennial Kingdom have come.
God°Øs perfecting people is all about purifying them.
The more they are being purified, the more they are
being made perfect by God. When the impurities,
rebelliousness, resistance and the fleshly things in
you have been cast off and wiped out, you will be one
in whom God is well pleased, (in other words, a
saint). And, when you have been made perfect by God
and have become a saint, you will be in the Millennial
Kingdom. Now it is the Age of the Kingdom, in the Age
of the Millennial Kingdom, people will all live on the
word of God. All nations will pledge their allegiance
to God°Øs name, and come to read his word. When that
time comes, some will make phone calls and others will
send telegrams... they will use various ways to get
God°Øs word. You will also pledge your allegiance to
God°Øs word. All these are the things that will take
place after people have been made perfect. God is now
perfecting, refining, inspiring and guiding people
through the word, as it is the Age of Kingdom at
present, the stage in which people are perfected. It
has nothing to do with the Age of the Millennial
Kingdom. In the Age of the Millennial Kingdom, people
will have been made perfect and the corruption in them
will have been wiped out. The word God will proclaim
at that time will guide people step by step,
disclosing the mysteries of all the works that God did
from the creation of the world till now. Moreover, God
will tell people what he did in every age, what he did
on each day, how he guided them within, the work he
did in the spiritual realm, and the way in which the
spiritual realm developed. Only when that time comes
will it really be the Age of the Word, of which the
present is only a small image. If people have not been
made perfect and have not been purified, they will not
be able to live on the earth for a thousand years and
their flesh will necessarily perish. When people have
been purified on the inside and no longer have the
fleshly things of Satan, they will be able to continue
to live on the earth. You cannot understand that
thoroughly while you are still in this stage of the
work. What you are to experience at the present time
is to love God and testify about God all the days that
you live on the earth.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????"????"??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
°?The Millennial Kingdom Has Come°± is a piece of
prophecy. It is equal to the prophecies the prophets
gave. It is God, at the present time, prophesying the
things to happen in the future. The word God will
speak in the future is different from the word that he
speaks at the present time. The word he will speak in
the future is to lead the age. The word he speaks at
the present time is to perfect, refine and correct
people. The Age of the Word in the future that God
speaks about is different from the Age of the Word he
speaks about at the present time. At this time, all
the words God speaks, regardless of whatever manner he
uses, are to perfect people and to cleanse their filth
on the inside so that they can be holy and become the
righteous before God. The word God speaks at the
present time is totally different from the word he
will speak in the future. The word God speaks in the
Age of the Kingdom is to let people enter into all
aspects of their training, and to let them enter all
aspects of the right path and to get rid of all their
impurities. This is what God is doing in this age,
making God°Øs word be the foundation inside of every
one and be life of every one so that they can have the
inspiration and guidance of God°Øs word inside all the
time. When they do not show any consideration for the
intention of God, they are rebuked and disciplined
within by God°Øs word. The word God speaks at the
present time is to be man°Øs life and to directly
provide for his needs. Whatever you lack on the inside
can be provided through the word of God. All who
accept the word of God gain inspiration through eating
and drinking the word of God. The word God will speak
in the future is to guide beings all over the
universe. At present, God can only speak these words
in China. They do not represent what he will proclaim
to the entire universe. Only when the Millennial
Kingdom comes will God issue forth his voice to the
entire universe. You should know that the word that
God speaks at the present time is entirely in order to
perfect people, that the word he speaks in this stage
is to provide for people°Øs needs, and that it is not
to let you know a few mysteries or see miraculous
signs and wonders. He proclaims the word in so many
different ways; it is exactly in order to provide for
people°Øs needs. At present, the Age of the Millennial
Kingdom has not yet come. The Age of the Millennial
Kingdom that God speaks about is the time God gains
his glory. When the stage of the work done by Jesus in
Judea was finished, God shifted his work to the
mainland of China. He made another plan, doing another
part of his work in you, the work of perfecting people
through his word. Through the word, he makes people
suffer a lot of afflictions as well as receive much
grace from him. In this stage of the work, he will
perfect a group of overcomers. When he has gained such
a group who can testify about his deeds and live out
the reality of his word in a practical way, and who
can truly satisfy him and be loyal to him unto death,
he will have gained his glory. When God has gained his
glory, that is, when he has made this group of people
perfect, it will be the Age of the Millennial Kingdom.
"???????"???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Jesus lived on the earth for thirty-three and a half
years. His coming was to do a stage of the work of
crucifixion. Through his being crucified, God gained a
part of his glory. When God was in the flesh, he was
able to humble himself, be hidden, and endure extreme
sufferings. Although he was God himself, he still
endured all the humiliation, all the slander and the
extreme pain of being crucified to complete the
redemptive work. Although people have seen that God
was greatly glorified after that stage of the work was
accomplished, that is not the full glory of God. He
only gained a part of his glory in Jesus. Although
Jesus was able to bear all the sufferings, humble
himself, be hidden, and be crucified for God, God only
gained a part of his glory. This glory was gained in
Israel, but God still has another part of his glory,
that is, to come to the earth and do the work in a
practical way to perfect a team of people. Although
God did some transcendent things in that stage of the
work of Jesus, it was not merely in order to perform
miraculous signs and wonders in that stage, but mainly
in order to let people see that Jesus could suffer for
God and be crucified for God. Moreover, he could
endure the extreme sufferings because of his love for
God. Although God abandoned him, he was willing to
offer up his whole life for the sake of God°Øs will.
When God had accomplished his work in Israel, that is,
after Jesus was crucified, God had already gained his
glory and God had already done a stage of testimony
before Satan. However, since you neither knew nor saw
how God had come to China and become flesh, then where
do you see that God has gained his glory? God has done
a lot of conquering work in you and you have stood
firm, which is proof that the work of God has been
successful. This is a part of God°Øs glory. You have
only seen this point. But you have not been made
perfect by God and have not completely surrendered
your hearts to God. So, you have not yet fully seen
this glory. You have only seen that God has conquered
your hearts, that you can no longer leave him and that
you are resolved to follow God to the end with a loyal
heart. This is God°Øs glory. Where can you see God°Øs
glory? You can see it from the results that God has
attained through his working in people, as you see how
lovely God is, and that God is in people°Øs hearts,
and that they are unwilling to depart from God. This
is indeed God°Øs glory. The strength of all the
brothers and sisters in the churches has rallied, and
they love God from the bottom of their hearts. And,
they see that the work God does is extremely powerful,
and that his word has incomparable power, and bears
authority. In the mainland of China, the fortress full
of demons, God is still able to carry out his work.
Although the people are weak, they surrender their
hearts before God and are willing to accept his word.
Although they are weak and unworthy, they can see how
lovely God°Øs word is and how greatly it deserves to
be treasured. This is God°Øs glory indeed. One day,
when all people have been made perfect by God, and
they all surrender before God and are all completely
submissive to God, committing their future and their
destiny into his hand, God will have completely gained
the second part of his glory. In other words, when the
real God has accomplished all his work, the work God
does in the mainland of China will have come to an
end. That is to say, those whom God predestined and
chose will all have been made perfect, and then God
will have gained his glory. God said that he has taken
the second part of his glory to the East. People
cannot see this with their fleshly eyes, but God has
brought his work to the East, which means that he has
come to the East. This is precisely God°Øs glory.
Although it has not been achieved as yet, he will
surely accomplish it, since he has aimed to do it. God
is resolved to accomplish this work in China. He has
determined to make you perfect. Therefore, he has now
cut off all the ways of escape that people have, that
is, he has conquered their hearts. You have to go
regardless of whether you are willing or unwilling.
When you have been possessed by God, God will have
gained his glory. Now he has not completely gained his
glory because you have not been made perfect. Although
you have surrendered your hearts to God, you still
have a lot of fleshly weakness and cannot satisfy God
or show consideration for his intention, and there are
still a lot of negative things in you that need to be
cast off.
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
If you believe God ordains these things, then, in my not so humbe opinion, you have more spiritual abuse to recover from. Quick fix? STOP BEING A RACIST! STOP BELIEVING THAT GOD IS A RACIST! STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING "they" TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS WHEN IT SAYS xyz...and START LISTENING TO YOUR HEART AND USE YOUR MIND...you can do it, bubba...
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Re: (China) You have to go regardless of whether you are willing or unwilling
Tue, May 23, 2006 - 6:37 PMEstevan,
I tried reading your last 2 posts but gave up because the lack of carriage-returns was giving me eyestrain.
Maybe next time you could provide the link only; instead of pasting such a long long quote? Or better yet, why not paraphrase? It's always more interesting to hear someone speaking their own thoughts, versus quoting.